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Just a thought 
23rd - Apr - 2011 - 11:54 pm
logeirr: (TLU: Who farted?)

I know you're probably upset with me for suggesting that it might not be wise to complain about others not crediting your work when you constantly delete things. I apologize for that. I didn't realize there were other contributing factors.

But now my curiosity is piqued. You are very talented, and even if I'm not interested in the particular fandom, I can still appreciate the work that you put into each drawing. I admit that I think it's a bit sad that you don't draw original work and only focus on fanart, but that's me being selfish to see what you'd come up with on your own.

So where does the passion come from? Is drawing, for you, merely a compulsion? Are fandom and drawing tied together? What would you draw if you didn't draw fanart?

Thank you for answering. -sweet2nothing

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if i didn’t draw fanart, i wouldn’t draw anything. i would probably write. or teach earth science.

i like seeing what makes a character look like he does, is all. i like the feeling of putting marks on paper. it’s not really passion. it’s arbitrary.

but i think it’s sad that you wish i drew original work. that’s like saying to someone, “i don’t believe this is really you.”

people who draw original art get praised for their vision and creativity. you don’t have to be familiar with any of their characters, and you don’t have to be in any fandom to know what’s going on. no prior knowledge is required because you love what they do as artists.

but people who draw fanart only get a sidestep reaction. it’s either “i don’t know who this is, but you drew it very well” or “congratulations; you’ve made it look like him. now will you please grow up and stop being silly and draw us something we can actually like?”

you wouldn’t think to say these things to regular artists because regular art is about the artist herself. but fanart? well, that’s okay, because fanart is just a trick. it’s just wasted time.

i think you should stop sending me messages.

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I can actually heartily agree with Euclase here. Never saw it like this, but it's true. Not everyone craves to be an 'artist' who makes a living with original art. Maybe out of fear, or lack of support. For some it's a calling, a passion, and they pursue their dreams til the very end no matter what - and that's great! But for me it's a wonderful hobby, simple as that. This does not necessarily mean my art is worthless because I have a different mindset, a different approach... or does it?

What do you guys think? Do you view fanart as a waste of time and talent?

Comments 
23rd - Apr - 2011 - 10:23 pm (UTC)
In the end, if people are having fun drawing fanart, great! If they don't want to draw fanart, that's great too! No one is obligated to draw original art any more than they are to draw a million pictures of their favorite Naruto characters banging. You can't say one requires more work or talent than the other because art is art. I can spend a year on one piece of fanart (and I have) and a day on a piece of original work and guess what, they're both equally valid expressions of my talent.

It's sad that fanartists get a lot of shit for drawing other people's characters. It's hard to get a character to look recognizable when they're not yours and they aren't drawn in your style! Regardless of subject matter, there's still the composition, line quality, shading, coloring, all that sort of stuff you have to consider in a piece regardless of it's original characters or not.
24th - Apr - 2011 - 02:08 am (UTC)
I agree with this comment. I like fan art and original art, but I get interested in an artist through their fan art. I don't run around the internet looking for original art - I look for fan art because I know I like those characters. I'm already emotionally invested in them. You know? =/
24th - Apr - 2011 - 06:26 am (UTC)
Oy, is she back?
24th - Apr - 2011 - 05:45 pm (UTC)
So... you're using your spare time to draw other people's characters, just because you feel like it... and people criticize you, asking you to be more creative.

Would the same people have the guts to criticize someone for spending their spare time on something completely uncreative, like watching TV for hours, or playing tetris, or reading Vogue?

Or would the same people criticize you for painting your version of, let's say, Baba Yaga or Julius Caesar? That's fan art, that is.

I think the best answer to these people is: "Them as pay the piper choose the tune, and last time I looked, you weren't paying me. I'm doing this for fun. If you want to see me drawing original characters, well, that's not fun, that's work. So either pay me money, or swallow the fan art I'm giving you. Or GTFO."
24th - Apr - 2011 - 07:48 pm (UTC)
Ich bin immer so am Stirnrunzeln wenn Leute sagen das fanart nicht persönlich ist. Jede Art der Kunst ist ja schlussendlich eine Form der Kommunikation. Fanart ist halt etwas spezifischer bei der Zielgruppe, Menschen die mit dem Fandom nicht vertraut sind sind halt mehr oder weniger ausgeschlossen. Aber ist das bei den konventionellen Werken so großartig anders ?
Das hat für mich irgendwie auch nicht so sehr etwas damit zu tun ob man Künstler werden will, das würde ja heissen das "normale" Bilder in irgendeiner Art und weise etwas anderes wären. Aber das sind sie nicht.
Ob nun fanart oder originalart, in beiden Fällen kommuniziert man. Nur mit wem man kommuniziert ist der Schlüsselpunkt. Es geht um Gruppenbildung.

Zu sagen das man Originalart zeichnen soll damit man mehr vom Künstler sieht klingt für mich mehr wie " das was du fabrizierst wurde nicht spezifisch für meine Interessen kreiert und ich fühle mich ausgeschlossen, zeichne etwas anderes damit ich mich wieder zugehörig fühle".

Das was mich bei fanart immer fasziniert ist die starke emotionale Bindung zu den Charakteren und den Geschichten, und die Gruppenzugehörigkeit zu anderen Fans. Wie kann man da sagen das es nichts vom Künstler oder deren/dessen zeigt...

Ich dachte auch oft das fanart Zeitverschwendung ist und habe mich schlecht gefühlt weil es mir soviel mehr Spaß gemacht hat als Originalart... aber schlussendlich , wenn dich fanart persönlich ausfüllt und andere erreicht hast du mehr erreicht als so mancher "normaler" Künstler.

Originalart hat mehr allgemein Anerkennung , deshalb wollen die Leute, die es gewohnt sind das man sich um ihre Interessen kümmert, dir ab und an vorschreiben das das was du kreierst nicht gut ist.

24th - Apr - 2011 - 11:04 pm (UTC)
covert_pursuit: (Merlin)
Fanart doesn't warrant criticism unless the artist asks for it. (And then usually just when it comes to technique; literal advice about drawing/painting.) It's done for fun, people usually don't do it for work. Everyone has a different reason for why they do fanart, and every reason is just as legitimate.

Whether personal pieces vs fanart is even something needed to be discussed is really the question. One shouldn't have to defend one's hobbies. If it's for fun then it's for you. Others might as well not seek if out and look at it, if it's that big of a conflict to them.
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